*PITTSBURGH ON THE HOT SEAT*

   – *OWNERSHIP UNDER FIRE*

  I was watching an episode of “Forbes Sports Money” last night, and they brought up some excellent points about the Pirates organization that I’d love to help surface…

   1. PNC PARK – The beautfiul stadium the Pirates call home… What good is having a beautiful ballpark if you never invest in a contending team?

   2. WHERE’S THE MONEY GOING? Forbes pointed out that the Pirates rake in about $16,000,000 in profit every season – and still refuse to acknowledge where it’s going. I found this tidbit of information extremely interesting, because I constantly hear Pittsburgh fans approving and disapproving the transactions that are made. It almost makes me feel sorry for us, because here we are making sense of their moves – when in reality, the owners “behind closed doors” are  up to no good. *NOTE: This isn’t an opinion I’m feeding you here, this is what Forbes investigated and discovered. The numbers aren’t adding up – and they even went as far as suggesting that Bud Selig step in and put his foot down.

   3. WHEN WILL IT END? Forbes pointed out that as an organization owner, you’re actually obligated to use a specific percentage of your profit for nothing outside of your organization. This is why they were so intent on promoting new management, and labeling the current ownership a “sham.” They litterally proved that the Pirates aren’t meeting this obligation…

   *When you take these facts into consideration, it really makes the recent trades seem that much more rediculous. A lot of fans were upset about the transactions because they didn’t agree with the equality of the trades… Unfortunantly, it seems as though the ‘rebuilding’ had less to do with baseball, and more to do with pocketing some money…

   FINAL NOTE: I’m not suggesting that every trade we witnessed this year was a hoax… I think a lot of the trades were fair game. What I am suggesting, (even before I heard it from Forbes,) is that Pittsburgh fans are without a doubt being short-changed.

   I expect some people to disagree, and possibly even speak up in the ownerships defense… The only opinion I’ll share in the matter is that I believe what I’ve stated above to be true. It makes an awful lot of sense when you consider the things the team has done to “improve” that have left you scratching your head…

6 comments

  1. jonnnnnn

    I don’t believe any of that garbage. All the fans outside of Pittsburgh haven’t been watching the team for the last decade and a half and don’t understand what’s going on. All you guys see is the Pirates making trades for prospects that you’ve never heard of… but what prospects has anyone with only general baseball knowledge ever heard of? Not many.

    The only trade that REALLY benefitted the Pirates financially was the Adam LaRoche trade… and we didn’t lose anything in that one, LaRoche is garbage for the Pirates.

    All of this “factual” information about the Pirates not revealing where the funs are going is interesting I guess, but I don’t think you can actually take that so seriously. That seems like a far-off thing that could be explained in MANY different ways. What could those guys possibly be using that money for? And it’s not like the Pirates have even had the chance to give anybody money that will help them in the future. Giving big contracts to Freddy and Jack would have been flat-out stupid. The management has spent a lot of money on these draft picks, and they spent a buttload on Alvarez last year. Those are both good signs. Free agent signings surely won’t help the future team either, so don’t say anything when the Pirates don’t compete for the big names this offseason.

    It’s just the same old answer for every Pirates argument this year… only time will tell.

    http://eatsleepmlb.mlblogs.com

  2. JQuist

    “All the fans outside of Pittsburgh haven’t been watching the team for the last decade and a half and don’t understand what’s going on.” – That’s a bold statement considering you don’t know me from a hole in the wall lol, but I’m not taking offense to it because I clearly stated that FORBES made these accusations. I didn’t sit around and create a story about the ownership being “corrupt,” – FORBES simply pointed out that the Pirates aren’t investing nearly as much as they’re making. If that happens to be a fact, then there’s nothing you or I can do about it. I never said that I thought the prospects we received were ‘god awful,’ – and I specifically said that “I’m not suggesting that every trade we witnessed this year was a hoax…” – I said that the fans of Pittsburgh are being short changed, (and if the organization isn’t even spending enough to breach the percentage a team is mandated to spend,) then short-changed is a pretty appropriate term for the situation. “All of this “factual” information about the Pirates not revealing where the funs are going is interesting I guess, but I don’t think you can actually take that so seriously.” Look. You can spend money on tickets, watch a last-place finish and not take it serious if you want… but I don’t think they’d be calling the operations a “sham” and suggesting that Bud Selig get involved if there wasn’t something to find. “What could those guys possibly be using that money for?” – Money is money lol. What does anybody with money use money for? “And it’s not like the Pirates have even had the chance to give anybody money that will help them in the future.” – As Forbes pointed out, if they’re banking $16,000,000 a year in unspecified profit – take your pick lol. That’s $16,000,000 that could of went to anybody your heart desired… That’s a “chance” right there to scoop just about anybody if it’s true. I personally believe it is… I’m not buying every single thing they suggested, but the fact that they’re not using all of their profit for their team is enough reason to discuss the issue…

  3. feverspell

    //2. WHERE’S THE MONEY GOING? Forbes pointed out that the Pirates rake in about $16,000,000 in profit every season – and still refuse to acknowledge where it’s going. I found this tidbit of information extremely interesting, because I constantly hear Pittsburgh fans approving and disapproving the transactions that are made. It almost makes me feel sorry for us, because here we are making sense of their moves – when in reality, the owners “behind closed doors” are up to no good. *NOTE: This isn’t an opinion I’m feeding you here, this is what Forbes investigated and discovered. The numbers aren’t adding up – and they even went as far as suggesting that Bud Selig step in and put his foot down.//

    Teams like the Pirates also get a metric ton of money from teams like the Yankees through revenue sharing and I wonder where that money is going too, unless it’s part of the profit the teams take in every year. When I hear fans complain that the Yankees are bad for baseball because they spend so much money every year, I counter with the fact that teams like Pittsburgh are equally as bad, but for entirely different reasons.

    //*When you take these facts into consideration, it really makes the recent trades seem that much more rediculous. A lot of fans were upset about the transactions because they didn’t agree with the equality of the trades… Unfortunantly, it seems as though the ‘rebuilding’ had less to do with baseball, and more to do with pocketing some money…//

    And that’s the “entirely different reason” I was talking about. They get good players and then get rid of them just as fast. They make sure they have a brand-new fancy ball park, but don’t care a lick about fielding a quality, competitive team. They get that money and sit on it like a hoarder, like our currency will no longer exist tomorrow. People see teams like the Pirates, Royals, Marlins, Diamondbacks….the cellar dwellars and let them cry poor-mouth because of the big bad Yankees/Red Sox/Mets/Dodgers quandrangle, but they ain’t so poor when you look at the numbers. They’re cheap, and there’s a difference. You may not like the amount of money those 4 teams spend every year, but at least their owners put a quality product on the field every time, cost be damned. I’d rather that than the alternative.

    BTW, great blog you have here. I really enjoy it. I hope to see you over at mine sometime. If you comment regularly, I’ll add you to my blog roll. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Beth
    http://yankeeschick.mlblogs.com

  4. Jane Heller

    I can’t speak to the Forbes article and I don’t follow the Pirates very closely except that I figure at that at some point many of the prospects will become very good players. I’m just glad the Yankees have always put the profits back into the team. We can never complain about that.

    http://janeheller.mlblogs.com

  5. southernbelle

    J.Quist: Sorry I didn’t comment earlier. I spent the whole day in Manhatten. I believe that if the Pirates now just hold on to the players they have, let them grow as Pirates together, they will be a better team. Like the Rays. I didn’t get to see the Yankee game today, and I picked a good one to miss! A loss like that does wonders for my mood. ๐Ÿ™‚
    Yeah, I love talking with you, but this should be strictly baseball. Here you go : southernbelle816@gmail.com
    That’s my email address. ๐Ÿ™‚ When you get your Facebook, I’ll be sure to friend you.
    Bye ๐Ÿ˜‰
    -Virginia
    http://southernbelle.mlblogs.com

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